People are calling Obama a Marxist and wondering why gov is taking everything over?

Fundemental Change? Hope?

All these things seems great. That is until you look into them and see the true meanings and where those thoughts are coming from when one makes as statement such as fundemental change and hope.

Did hope and change mean how washington deals with special interest, lobbies, pork, corruption, back room deals,gay rights issues, Transparency and the Criminal Minds of those we elect to office?

I think that is what most people voted for when they voted for hope and change. At least those that did not see the writing on the wall before the elections.

I contend that indeed each adminstration has built to this and that the Bush administration was no different. But this group we have now has taken it to a whole new level.

What have we recieved? Well to date, promises to the lefts thoughts about the wars, gay rights issues, and the enviroment, but nothing done. This gives the apperance of things being done, but in fact...nothing.

To the left, they see the illusion of progress. To the center right, the see the destruction and tear down of everything this country's foundation was built on, thus the tea party's voice.

So what's going on? I say it is a attempt to truly change America into something other than America. It seems that this admistration is fused with many people that love, have studied, and openly praised Marxist. Some openly admit to being Marxist.

I attached a p.s. on Karl Marx (1818-1883), socialism and Conflict theory.

Gov growing, taking over private bussiness, blaming wall street, making the poor hate the rich, making the poor believe they will have what the rich do, making people dependant, higher taxes not to help anything but grow the gov power over your life and your pay check. These things are done to gain control in the name of making people equal. In reality it chains your liberty.

Everytime Gov regulates or mandates, in reality they do not care about the problem at hand. In reality the problem they are dealing with is a creation of prior regulations and mandates. Each stacked on each other is building to have total gov control and to stuff out capitalism......thus a slow build to Socialism and Marxism European way of living. EXAMPLE; The whole subprime mess. It was not this company, that company, this person, that person. It all started out of gov regulations and mandates on how banks give out loans in the name of fairness. Well, you can't give something away for free to people that can't pay for it, but the gov sure can come in and claim to save everyone, take over everything, blame it on captialism, and rich people. Then the very people that started this mess will be able sit back and look at each other and say...see I told you, just give it time and it will Collapse and we can have an excuss to fundamentally change America.

Next will be the change to our free market through financial reform. When Obama says I believe in the power of a free market system what he really does is spend the rest of the speech on why he believes in Marxist Theory. He just hopes you want see that but hear "free market reform".

All you have to do is take the time to reasearch this for your self and not be some lazy o it will work itself out...I'll be fine type of person. Reasearch will let you see what is going on. Listening to other people will make you sheep in a field to be led by not your thought but the thoughts of someone else. So it's up to you to wake up one day and be somewhere you want to be or don't want to be.

A quick summary of Marxism: “The whole gospel of Karl Marx can be summed up in a single sentence: Hate the man who is better off than you are. Never under any circumstances admit that his success may be due to his own efforts, to the productive contribution he has made to the whole community. Always attribute his success to the exploitation, the cheating, the more or less open robbery of others. Never under any circumstances admit that your own failure may be owing to your own weakness, or that the failure of anyone else may be due to his own defects – his laziness, incompetence, improvidence, or stupidity.”

It is Marxist who hide theirselves under the title of progressives in both parties, but more so in the dems, because the theories of Marx can be attached to "being for the working person" thus translated into redistribution, and social justice.(which is Marxist)

Marxist and Socialist thought is pushed onto our people and into out thoughs through Saul Alinsky Tactics, our gov schools, saving mother earth, using the working person against the person that the working person works for, and all the things that tug at the heart strings of caring people. All this with political Correctiness(marxist tool) hammering at every normal Liberty we may have to shut people up. Political Corectness basicaly say shut up, plays on the feelings of others with hate and the claims of racism.( it's main tools.)

It's alot like this. You can listen to a preacher and hope he's correct and leading you down the right path, or you can read the bible for yourself and fact check him and make sure your not being led away by the beautiful highlights of the bible while being sent straight to hell by the very person you depended on saving your soul.

The left wants progress, thus the attempt to paint the tea party as something and anything they are not. The right as always through common sence assumes people will see the the truth as opposed to the lies. The left contents hate & racism, the right contents our founding and less gov. The two doesn't even go together. If only people would understand political thoughts and understand history, people would see all this falling into place. However, people tend to follow the talking points and scream it over and over and they do not even see the work or plans that are taking place under and behind all the fussing and fighting. It's almost like a majic trick....look at this hand while the other hand is doing something else.

Anyway, Ranting Again
WEL3

Obama Marxist Quotes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt7zWQMHLFY These Quotes are the direct opposite of any and all quotes you could ever find from our founding fathers. However, read Marx and you will find them everywhere.

P.S. ON MARX AND CONFLICT THEORY.

Karl Marx (1818-1883), socialism and Conflict theory.

Karl Marx was the founder of conflict theory, which argues that the competition of individuals and groups for wealth and power is the fundamental process shaping social structure. For conflict theories, basic questions about a social structure are "Who gets what and why?" (redistribution) Marx was born just after the monarchical restorations that concluded the Napoleonic wars. He studied philosophy at Berlin and then edited a radical newspaper, which argued that the privileges of privileged groups blocks progress. This brought him into conflict with the authorities, and he had to flee from Germany to France and then to England. There, he lived in poverty (most of his children died from lack of food and medicine), wrote, and together with Fredrick Engels, organized the First International Workingmen's Association. (Unions)

Marx believed that over the long run, the conflict of groups produces a progressive development of greater equality, democracy, autonomy and individuality, as different forms of privilege are abolished. He believed that this progress only occurs when the rule of privileged groups is overthrown, leading to a more inclusive society. First the relationships of personal subordination, characteristic of slavery and feudalism are replaced by relationships in the market. But in a capitalist society, Marx believed, the fact that owners (capitalists) can accumulate vast resources and can control the livelihood of others (workers), allows them to dominate the society by political corruption, the whip of hunger, etc. He believed that the abolition of monarchy and of aristocratic class abolished one kind of privilege, but produces "wage slavery," which can only be ended by the abolition of private ownership of means of production.

In the 1960's, the rise of conflict theories, stressing the importance of stratification, class, conflict and material interests led to increased interest in Marx. Many recognize that Marx's theories raise fundamental questions about inequality, social structure and social dynamics.